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For a mainlander, Taiwan _is_ a region of China, think of it as Hawai for the US.

Where I live in the Midwest USA, nobody would care if Hawai'i claimed its independence in some not-harmful-to-tourists-nor-threatening-to-military-fuel-depots fashion.

That doesn't mean it would be easy. Much as was seen in the original USA annexation of Hawai'i, it is very common for interested parties to create violence where none naturally exists.



> Where I live in the Midwest USA, nobody would care if Hawai'i claimed its independence in some not-harmful-to-tourists-nor-threatening-to-military-fuel-depots fashion.

Also Midwest/Great Lakes and I’m not sure about that. I know I’d be pretty upset about it just as I would be if Texas tried to seriously secede or similar. I wonder what a poll would show? I hadn’t thought about Hawaii like you have but it would be interesting.

I was stationed there too. It felt like America on an island. It was weird.

The Us would never let it happen though. Too strategically important


You might if Fort Knox was in Oahu.

Taiwan still has 400+ tonnes of gold the Guomindang took with them on their way out. I have no idea if good reserves have any relevance in this century but it’s just one part of the long term animosity.


The issue is that Taiwan is military necessary. If the US is allowed an outpost there they will use the encirclement to threaten China's security.


That’s a pretty bold statement. When has the US ever threatened China’s internal security?


Did you forget the Cold War before Nixon? The Korean War? Even today various officials in the US military are discussion how best to militarily contain China.


Which of those relates to Chinese internal security?

In other words - aside from containing Chinese/Communist external influence, when has the US threatened China?

Note: I'm not justifying or condemning any of those "external" actions by the US, I'm just curious if you can illustrate a past or ongoing threat to China proper?




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