> just pick someone else ... to be the "proxy" of your site,
If you have deep enough pockets, sure, just pay anyone ASAP. But as far as I can tell, Codeberg is a non-profit entirely dependent on donations and, according to Drew DeVault, paying Cloudflare to protect SourceHut is prohibitively expensive even at his scale, so I doubt Codeberg is in any better position to finance this.
They aren't. Even though many people use Codeberg, only few become members. This is a problem. Passing Join + Donate pages from archive.org. According to their November newsletter:
> More than 100.000 projects as of late on Codeberg. Codeberg e.V. has 401 members in total, these are 281 members with active voting rights, 113 supporting members and 7 honorary members.
That's what credit-card-required donations feel like to me. I didn't need a credit card except for giving americans money, then I applied for one and it was denied seemingly based on not having a credit score (not good, not bad, just none: privacy is suspicious!).
Afaik you can also do wire transfers in other countries but there are some fees involved, so isn't IBAN available to anyone with any bank account if they're okay seeing fees which the payment platform would otherwise hide?
I think OP's point was that SEPA and IBAN are completely different things.
SEPA is the Eurozone area that treats all transfers as domestic - usually free or near-free, and fast (max 1 day normally, max 10 seconds for instant transfer).
IBAN is just a numbering scheme to uniquely identify bank accounts worldwide. It has nothing to do with transfers. The closest thing would be SWIFT, though that's just an information protocol and says nothing about fees or times.
IBAN is also used by some countries outside of EU. It's basically just a way to assign an alphanumeric code to an account so that it also includes a country code, bank code, and checksum.
How do bank transfers work outside of the IBAN area then? I seem to remember that, also before IBAN, you'd put in the bank identifier (BIC?) and account number and the bank would figure it out from there. (I've heard stuff about bank "routing" but assume that's a thing the bank does for you.)
Also when getting money from Japan (mtgox), I had to put in the bank's branch address and some funny details one doesn't usually need, but it's possible to receive it on my IBAN account
According to SWIFT, the account is defined by a combination of bank identifier and account identifier. That is, account identifiers are supposed to be unique only within the bank. (Not sure about this part.)
There are many ways to identify an account, IBAN is one of them. Other methods require you to specify a "schema" (one of predefined codes 1-4 characters long), an "issuer" (string up to 35 chars), and "id" (string up to 34 chars).
I suppose banks know the values that make sense for their customers, and otherwise just forward the information to other banks.
IBAN is an alphanumeric string, where the first two characters are country code, and the meaning of the rest is country-specific. BIC is encoded in IBAN, so the information provided is redundant (in the payment you specify both the bank and the account, but the account also specifies the bank).
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SEPA is a subset of SWIFT, with extra rules imposed. The currency is EUR, and the only allowed account identifier is IBAN.
That means, SEPA requires IBAN, but you can also use IBAN outside of SEPA as one of many possible ways of identifying the account. For example, if I pay from EU to USA, I am using my IBAN account in a non-SEPA payment.
They do take donations through Liberapay, where you can use credit cards and PayPal.
As for membership, they are a German e.V. (Registered club/society? Not sure how this translates in terms of both culture and language.)
According to a short internet search, you _can_ collect membership dues via other means as an e.V., but SEPA certainly is the standard. Since you need a bank account for an e.V. anyways and every alternative to simple wire transfers would involve fees and just the hassle of setting them up, integrating them into your existing bookkeeping and maintaining all that, I can understand why they decided not to do that (yet) or maybe didn't even think about it.
(I can certainly see where you're coming from, I just wanted to provide some additional insight.)
I don't think so. It looks like a regular bank payment complete with an IBAN and everything. So you should be able to send from any bank (as long as you're not under US och EU sanctions).
They are just using sloppy language. SEPA is just a payment system for cheaper and faster payments. It uses still uses regular bank accounts to send from and to, it can be regarded as backwards compatible with normal bank transfers.
If you have deep enough pockets, sure, just pay anyone ASAP. But as far as I can tell, Codeberg is a non-profit entirely dependent on donations and, according to Drew DeVault, paying Cloudflare to protect SourceHut is prohibitively expensive even at his scale, so I doubt Codeberg is in any better position to finance this.
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38960189